Monday, September 14, 2009

If you want to witness a real hate crime

Just go to Google and type in "Hate crimes against women." Personally, I don't think special laws are needed for specific groups--gays, blacks, the elderly, etc. Most black men are killed by other black men; most gays are killed by other gays; most elderly are not abused, but are injured from their own confusion and neglect. Hate crimes are just laws to trip up the white majority--they rarely apply to minorities. But if there were a need for a special kind of law to hang someone twice for the same crime, it should be those against women. We saw the President of the United States jump to the defense of Louis Gates, with no knowledge of the situation, a man who had been locked out of his house and the police called when it appeared to a neighbor that he was trying to break in. We saw him speak out on the death of Tiller an abortionist; and the death of a museum guard. All men. Meanwhile, all over the nation, women were being beat up, raped and murdered, and not a peep from Washington.

Shortly before we left northern Ohio to return home, the local Toledo stations were all reporting the death of a women tied up and weighted down with cement blocks and dropped in a marina. You probably didn't hear about it. I'd call that hate, wouldn't you? Last summer it was the pregnant white Akron mother killed by her black policeman boyfriend, and father of her toddler who witness his mother being shot. No one called that a hate crime. What about the young girl held prisoner in the back yard of her captor, raped and forced to bear his children? Sounds like hate, not lust. Only the bizarre story could bump Michael Jackson off the news for a few minutes. And remember the guy who shot up that exercise class? How many women did he kill? He didn't even know them. But they were women. Now they've found the body of Annie Le, the missing Yale student and bride to be, hidden in the basement of a medical building.

The despicable crimes against the women of Darfur at the UN refugee camp in Chad so far exceed anything that happened at Abu Graib or Gitmo, you can't even put them in the same category. But what gets the headlines? Whatever fits the liberal agenda, and feminism aside, which these days won't even speak out against Muslim oppression for fear of losing their position on the left, crimes against women really aren't important. . . because they are. . .after all. . . just women.

7 comments:

Joubert said...

I don't believe in "hate crimes" either. What violent crime isn't a hate crime? But it's not true that "most gays are killed by other gays." Actually most gays are killed by either black or illegal immigrant gang-bangers.

Marc Pannenberg said...

The difference lies in the definition of "Hate Crimes". They are crimes committed out of bias/prejudice against a particular group of people. The crimes (and they are!) you have listed that were perpetrated against women, have been carried out by individuals who had personal motives or exhibit aberrant behaviour. They are not crimes against "Women" as a group.
See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_crime

Norma said...

So shooting down members of a exercise class is nothing against women? Serial rapists have nothing against women? Abortionists have nothing against women? Designers of women's fashion have nothing against women? TV and movie producers who consistently make women look like clowns and fools and sex toys have nothing against women? Nice try.

Marc Pannenberg said...

Ah, I see. Well, it's your blog and you make the rules. I mistakenly assumed you would be open to discuss your "thoughts". You are posting them publically on the Internet, after all.

Norma said...

Marc--you present the tried and true and banal argument women have heard for years, and you want to "discuss?" What did you expect me to say. You're a man so you must be right? You're a liberal so you have all the answers?

Marc Pannenberg said...

I did not present any old argument. I merely pointed out that there is a definition for the term hate crimes and that it does not fit with the crimes against women you described. In no way have I or would I ever belittle those crimes or the importance of addressing the social circumstances that enable them or the persecution of their perpetrators.
You however point to tv executives and put them on the same level with racists like Hitler or religious fanatics bombing innocent people with different believes.
I'm sorry you hate men (and apparently) liberals so much that you are incapable of rational disourse without turning to generalization and insult. As an educator you should be better than that.

Norma said...

Marc, you are a hoot! I talk about crimes against women, so I hate men. Silly sock puppet! How many pseudonyms are you going to use?

You know I'm writing about hate crime legislation which is absurd from every angle, regardless of the definition in wikipedia or your own mind, especially since it ignores the misogyny which exists in every culture, especially Hip-Hop.