". . .tonight Obama stood before Congress and lied to the members. Rep. Joe Wilson has read the bill. Barack Obama has not read the bill, and is relying on his handlers to tell him what to say. Politicians on both sides of the aisle called upon Wilson to apologize, which he did. Many, including John McCain, seemed to think that Wilson was rude for calling out from the audience. Personally, I believe that Obama was rude for lying to Congress and to the American citizens who were watching and listening. And Obama was arrogant and disdainful for assuming that we are stupid enough to believe his lie. ActBlue immediately created a fund-raising page for Joe Wilson's 2010 Democratic challenger Rob Miller titled No More Name Calling. So far they have raised a grand total of $100 from three supporters. And Wikipedia had to disable editing of their article on Joe Wilson due to vandalism. Which is more important -- the veneer of manners or the gut of honesty? Have any of these pantywaists ever watched a session of the British parliament? In any event, the future probably will favor Wilson. We understand that he has aspirations for higher office, and the governorship in his state may soon be vacant. In this timely moment, he has just become a national ideological hero. He gave voice to the frustrated silent majority, and they are ecstatic:"
- The new battle cry of all TRUE AMERICANS:
YOU LIE!!!!!
Blogger: "Joe has just been launched into superstardom. We just watched history being made."
Blogger: "I want to bear his rebel children!!!"
Here again are the phone numbers to contact and congrat Joe:
DC office: 202 225 2452
SC office 803 939 0041
Blogger: "Joe's switchboard is melting down!!"
Blogger: "we need to protect Joe Wilson Now!!!!! after Nancy was looking at the seating chart...she is gonna try to start some shit"
Blogger: "I'm definitely adding him to my list of Great Americans!"
Blogger: "Joe now has 4200 followers on Twitter and growing by the minute, lol. An hour ago he had 2,800"
Blogger: "If there is no concrete plan then why did Obama say he was going to "clarify" on TV tonite. There was a lie right there..."
Blogger: "Good for him, I say. Exercise your first amendment rights before they're taken away."
Blogger: "Bravo Mr. Wilson. Bravo."
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http://factcheck.org/2009/08/twenty-six-lies-about-hr-3200/
Claim: Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free healthcare services.
False. That’s simply not what the bill says at all. This page includes "SEC. 152. PROHIBITING DISCRIMINATION IN HEALTH CARE," which says that "[e]xcept as otherwise explicitly permitted by this Act and by subsequent regulations consistent with this Act, all health care and related services (including insurance coverage and public health activities) covered by this Act shall be provided without regard to personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services." However, the bill does explicitly say that illegal immigrants can’t get any government money to pay for health care. Page 143 states: "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States." And as we’ve said before, current law prohibits illegal immigrants from participating in government health care programs.
You lie.
What it says and what will happen are 2 different things. Where does it say they can't? It is a federal mandate that tax supported hospitals must treat them. There are plenty of sites that contradict factcheck on this item.
Sure, there are plenty of sites that contradict NASA and say we didn't go to the moon as well.
Then just read the CRS site yourself:
http://opencrs.com/document/R40773/
If you think something will happen outside of what is written, then everything is fair game. We could be killing kittens and feeding them to nursing home residents to cut costs... I mean, it doesn't SAY that... but hey, those are 2 different things.
Don't repeat the lies.
If you come here and get nasty or ridiculous, you'll be deleted. This is a blog, not your own private cess pool.
RULES OF DECORUM for the House of Representatives.
Be aware, Republican members may be exempt.
Absolutely!
I wonder if there are rules about giving campaign speeches 7 months into your presidency.
OK, tired_of_lies, go read the CRS site. Here's a direct quote:
From the CRS report Treatment of Noncitizens in H.R. 3200 (PDF), August 25, 2009, under the heading Exchange:
H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitzens — whether legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently — participating in the Exchange.
At best, Obama was using a semantic ploy to mislead the audience. Illegal aliens will not all be in possession of a piece of paper titled Health Insurance Policy. But they will be assured of receiving care any time they need it at the taxpayers’ expense. If they go to any emergency room they will receive care -- it’s the law.
And many will also get care under the provisions of the current health reform legislation, in direct contradiction to what Obama claimed. This is not just the opinion of a group opposed to the legislation. It is the finding of the Congressional Research Service (CRS).
So, as per this government report only two weeks old, whether intentionally or unintentionally, Obama stood before Congress and lied to the members.
"From the CRS report Treatment of Noncitizens in H.R. 3200 (PDF), August 25, 2009, under the heading Exchange:"
Read the rest of the same CRS report as cited above.
In 2013, under H.R. 3200, some individuals would be eligible for premium credits (i.e., subsidies based on income) toward their required purchase of health insurance. To be eligible for the premium credits under H.R. 3200, individuals must be lawfully present in a state in the United States.... Furthermore, unauthorized aliens would be barred from receiving the premium credit.
In a nutshell, this report says that starting in 2013 all noncitizens will be permitted to buy insurance. But unauthorized aliens will not be eligible to receive these premium credits. So, no premium credits mean, no taxpayer money.
Time to send Mr. Wilson money. He's the only Republican with a spine. I didn't know there were any.
Mr. Wilson may have a spine, but he lacks a brain.
Looks like he's smarter than at least 1/2 of congress.
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